Kurt: First off, fellas, I am glad that we have resurrected this feature, and since Café De Flore has left Toronto Cinemas after a mere two week run, it seems that this film certainly needs a little help to get recognized outside of French Speaking Canada. https://www.lyrics.com/album/822670/Cafe-de-Flore%2C-Vol.-2. Somehow opening the album with Ann-Margret's singing C'est Si Bon does not take me to Paris. The English translation of the lyrics (he never sings “It’s you!” by the way, but I like how the characters sing that phrase in the car) certainly prop up the idea of the dreamlike state that Carole finds herself in at night and the pain she wakes up to…. Food for thought. But then Vallée actually uses it and it’s gorgeous (he also uses the technique of stopping the song and then coming back to it to reinforce certain beats and emotions). Jean-Marc Vallee has that kind of honesty and artistry that searches for a way to show to truth and he’s done with Cafe de Flore. Seems awkward for that to somehow come up in the Medium conversation off-screen to justify this association (had they shown Carole handing the Medium that photograph than I would agree but I do not remember that happening). I don’t specifically remember the medium namechecking the Notre Dame – that certainly would be an indication that the film is trying to have its cake and eat it too as Kurt said. Not that it matters (since whatever interpretation you want to bring to the film should be valid for you), but it was pretty cool to hear Vallee even mention that the photo at the end is specifically very blurry and that Carole took that memory to incorporate into the entire “dream”. But you are right music was still a large source of his inspiration as always, especially “Cafe de Flore” and many tracks by Sigur Ros and Pink Floyd. Along with over ten albums of self-written, produced and performed music, he has produced albums b… read more. Thank you! Absolut lässig jazziger intelligenter Sound. Listen to Cafe de Flore (Soundtrack) now. And finally, any film with a scene as sweet and moving as the moment Laurent and Vero meet for the first time must be given as much praise as possible. THE DESCENDANTS is the least of ’em: Cafe De Flore > Take This Waltz > The Descendants. I keep noticing things. Play on Spotify Antoine also has that great speech to his therapist that is played over him jogging about how music seems to seep into the real world and affect it in this magical way. That there was that much debate, that it went unnoticed and people werent sure on first watch just makes me think yeah, he didnt stick the landing as well, didnt do enough to make the first instance stand out if it was going to be important later. Both my wife and I believe that there is a distinct percentage of the population (however small it may be) with whom each of us could have built a happy life – a different life no doubt and one where different choices end up being made, but still one that could be fulfilling and successful. It was a bit puzzling about where the two stories were going at first, but it all came together in the end. Fun fact though – the teenage boy who plays Antoine is actually Jean-Marc Vallee’s son. http://rowthree.com/audio/cinecast_19/episode_503.mp3. Listen to music from Cafe De Flore like About Love In Saint-Germain-Des-Pres and P.M. At Cafe De Flore. Mike: The reveal is awesome. However, I do still believe in the two time lines and the mystical part of it, and I think the second medium scene has to do with her trying to get rid of someone who has said upfront she thinks what she does is bullshit. If like me you are in Europe go to US Ebay and buy a PANASONIC BD65 or BD60 US model then along with a European player you will not have to worry about A and B area coding again. Bob: Ah, but is that really Jacqueline in the photo? But it is not balance, there is no balance, the universe is not static but active, a domino effect of actions changes the course of people’s lives continually. Carole would have seen that photo as a teenager (she’s in the photo of that photo), so it could be a lingering artifact that she has woven into her conception of the truth. 2 - Various Artists on AllMusic - 2005 Which gets back to Mike’s point about perspective…Initially you see the film as Antoine’s story, but if shifts to being Carole’s. Pictures within pictures, nothing independent of anything else. Listen to Cafe de Flore (Soundtrack) in full in the Spotify app. But I was mostly talking about the very last image. And many of his inspirations for this film came from personal experiences as he also went through a divorce 8 years back and he expresses himself through a lot of the scenes with Antoine. Bob: I can’t really disagree with either of your interpretations – they are slightly more “cosmic” and grand then my own view of the film, but I think we all get to the same basic place which is that you need to take responsibility for yourself and learn to adjust to what life gives you. Antoine feels he might die in a plane crash and yet continues to travel to push his career forward. Obviously the director doesnt know what the hell he is talking about and I am right. Atmospheric, fantastical, tragic and hopeful, the film chronicles the parallel fates of Jacqueline, a young mother with a disabled son in 1960s Paris, and Antoine, a recently-divorced, successful DJ in present day Montreal. The plane exploding before the sun has got to be one of the most potent images particularly for interpretation, feels like something Malick would use. So I have dedicated high quality European B players and the same model in American A players. The Easter Egg is that Notre Dame in English translates to ‘Our Mother’. My favorite use of music in the film is Sigur Ros though, both because I love that song but how it’s chorus is echoed by the daughters before the song is even introduced and then the song comes and the chorus hits at the moment Antoine encounters Rose at the AA meeting, and ‘It’s YOUUUUUU” haunting lyric. I’m not sure what is that symbol but it really looks like compass rose:). You have to re-do the procedure each time you turn off power to the player but as it only takes a matter of seconds no biggie. I was not a big fan of the song Café de Flore, which is one of my complaints, because it plays such a significant role in the story. I have stayed away from the spoiler thread on Row Three so I am coming to the conversation completely fresh. The goal of getting to the sun (i.e. This was used to fantastic effect to bring home its theme of letting go since not only will it help to avoid the emotional calamities ahead, but “letting go” will also allow a deeper appreciation of what your current life has to offer. Nothing they can do gets them out of this predestination, and while I do find that aspect interesting, I much prefer the more terrestrial drama of a guy sacrificing everything for a different kind of happiness. I know you’re all having fun deciphering meaning, but I am frustrated at the lack of clarity, and even more frustrating and seeing everyone fumble over the possible meanings, all of which don’t read as particularly fantastic. It seems that Laurent and Vero were meant to be together in a way that Jacqueline disrupted, her action has repercussions in the next life and then given the choice again she lets go and allows what was meant to happen to occur and brings balance to the universe. The domino effect continues, but played in the film, it is either beginning or end, symbolic for this chain of events that happens. Life could be a sequence of grand misunderstandings that may lead to either tragedy and elation. I think it is this: the transference of tragedy takes place elsewhere, to someone else, and because of one act a plane can explode. Music from Hotel Costes, Vol. Both films hit a fugue state at that point and it is movie magic. Right, I got confused because I couldn’t find Laurent and Vero. When they auditioned Vero she asked if they wanted to meet her “lover” – and then she brought in the boy who would end up playing Laurent. In the modern story, it is more a function of how Carole/Antoine interact, but there are lots of filtering down to the kids. Wow, apparently I really need to see this again. It’s handled extremely well – not too much so that she seems like a petulant child, but still very much a child poking their parent to see how far they can push. Not sure if I saw this done quite this way in a film before, especially not from kids using their parents music. What point would there be to explain to a cynical non-believer? I think we should probably wrap up, unless you have more to add? They were great i miss them! It actually felt kind of straightforward, as much as this film could be considered straightforward (I guess bringing it all together would be more accurate), once a particular piece of information was revealed, but that alternative interpretation makes a lot of sense now, so I definitely need to see this again. And all you can do is control how that affects you. Could that scene – repeated at the end – be Carole’s path? (Pschent Music) Vallée proves without a doubt that he is highly skilled when it comes to coaching his actors and letting them know when to go for subtle and when to go big. Its rarely you see a movie about Love & Soul Mates these days so Cafe De Flore is completely refreshing in bringing the purity of love. Would love your thoughts, please comment. 19. In an interview with Valle he actually mentions that he had never seen the music video for Sigur Ros’ Svefn-G-Englar when he decided to add it to the soundtrack of his movie until after he already made his characters. He also mentions how his mother died when he was on set of making the film and how he visited a cafe after where her mother and fathers favourite song was playing (his father was also a DJ) He said that these encounters made him slightly amazed and spooked out how things just fell in place for him. As much as you love your child and as overwhelming as that can be, you will at some point need to let go of them. Find the latest tracks, albums, and images from Cafe De Flore. Yes, so many years apart, testimony to how often a really great film about love is made. He would have had no other choice but to love Rose; the air is let out of that drama. It doesn’t make sense otherwise to say the reason that photo has any significance in the story is because Carole mythologized it or absorbed it into the dream… there is nothing about the photograph that has any significance outside of the cosmic connection being drawn in the movie. Mike: Perhaps I should drop this observation here: Café de Flore is the name of a bistro in Paris which adds to the association between the Quebec and the Parisian timelines. He played music on the set every day.” In fact, says Paradis, whose most recent album was released in 2010, if forced to choose between the two, she might opt for music over movies. Bob: Well, Café de Flore goes beyond the definition of a very good movie for me…Not that I think it’s perfect (how can a movie really be perfect with so many possibilities? Mike: If IMDb is to be any bastion of truth, they don’t even credit the child actors as Laurent and Vero, but as Carole and Antoine (age 14). For Antoine, he feels he can’t let a second soulmate slip away, but in our case if we meet someone who fits the threshold for potential soulmate it’s only an intriguing thought. Kurt’s here. Bob: Indeed, I mentioned above how the eldest daughter uses music as a weapon against her Dad (purposely playing songs that will remind him of her mother) and as a coping mechanism for herself. Granted that could just be a filmic trick from Vallée to make the connection for the audience, but to me it’s a fairly clear indicator that it’s happening to Carole and she is building that older timeframe slowly through her dreams. Please explain the image of the “Beefeater”. Bob: And to briefly return to specifics and minutae, there’s a scene in the Paris timeline (I forget exactly where) when Jacqueline is realizing she is “losing” her son to Vero that she walks away from a closing glass door and as the door swings closed a reflection of Rose appears in it. Web. The Down Syndrome kids Laurent and Vero aren’t listed in the IMDB credits at all (not sure if they were in the actual film credits, but I would bet they weren’t). I wasn’t sure if that was poetic, or I misheard or some genuine belief. Den man jahrelang hören kann. As a girl, she was shown in that sky-scape, walking in the blue, above the clouds (symbolically, love appears out of the blue as it does for Antoine with Rose?). Find album reviews, stream songs, credits and award information for Café de Flore: Rendez-Vous a Saint Germain des Pres [Universal France] - Various Artists on AllMusic - 2002 20. What ever happened to Aquaman and Ms Curious? Find album credit information for Cafe de Flore, Vol. I supposed Vallée has constructed-ambiguity (much different than say Donnie Darko’s accidental studio edit ambiguity) and ‘universal’ on the brain, as confirmed with the very final shot in the film with the plane exploding. I think it is a powerful image of the hope for people, and the perpetual imperfection, this is kind of the entire movie in miniature, and I’m glad the image is there. It’s up there with Malick’s “Days of Heaven” (1978) and Zanussi’s “A Year of the Quiet Sun” (1984). The medium even states that she was telling her what she wanted to know. Antoine even talks to his therapist at one point about how he loves to bring in silence to his sets because it sets up the whomp that follows and Vallée applies that very same strategy to his movie. But hey, this is an amazing film. I think this film was even BETTER the second time. Speak to Me / Breath Pink Fraud • A Tribute To Pink Floyd- Darker Than the Moon. (ist nicht richtiger hardcore Jazz sondern einfach lässig. Leider kann man die CDs kaum mit anderen vergleichen um einen Anhaltspunkt zu geben. Apparently you can skip warnings and baked in trailers too with this hack but I haven’t tested this yet. This might work for region A Panny players with other region discs too. As a parent, that’s a huge thing. I want to see it again now that I have read this explanation. Mike: Again, not to read too deeply into it, but the fact that “it’s you!” is not the actual lyric yet played out in the film and in the car as if it was, goes toward my previous point that Vallée plays with the idea of ‘mystical as misunderstanding’, or in this case, misheard. I thought it was definitely a very excellent film. The DJ mixing analogy is apt, and the emotional beats, in this stretch of the film, are not revealed by plotting information (that is to come later) but rather completely by editing strategy, as if you are being primed by a collection of images and asked to inject yourself into things (Terence Malick actually does a similar, if slightly different riff of this in a different fashion in the construction of a Tree of Life). Cafe de Paris - Essential French Cafe Songs [3cd] Various Artists. You get a great song that hits the emotional beat of soulmates meeting in reincarnation and about sleepwalking and the whole idea of dreaming all in one. I don’t do torrents, so maybe I’ll have to buy it from amazon.ca when I buy Beauty Day later this month. We have been waiting since Mammoth for the right kind of movie to do a conversation post for and this seems to check all the boxes, from the meaty thematic elements to the open-ended aspects of what exactly happened. 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